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irkone (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
If you think Holmgren is not optimistic, you aren't too familiar with reality as it is. Listen to some Richard Heinberg or Jay Hanson or Michael Klare or James Hansen or Sir David King. Colin Duncan, James Howard Kunstler, Peter Ward, Robert Jensen, Derrick Jensen, Jonathan Overpeck, James Speth. Just a list of some scientists, historians, activists, philosophers and social theorists who make Holmgren look like the figure of hope for humanity.
irkone (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Could anyone direct me to a downloadable mp3 of this segment?
seth553 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Scaith, we (in the US) are trained to believe that unlimited economic growth is the key to success and happiness. Just not true. It's natural to resist change, but the ability to adapt is what keeps us alive.Pay special attention to Holmgren's words about species becoming more co-operative in low-energy ecosystems. No "gated communities" anymore (see Jared Diamond). Support a local organic farmer by joining a CSA, and learn a low-energy trade. That's how we prevent the grocery-store riots.
sciath (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Its scary to think about the fact that grocery stores, while seemingly so plentiful in food it gives off the illusion of an infinite resource, only hold less then a week's supply.. if the shit hits the fan it'll take less then a week before people go hungry and when someone's kids are starving they will do anything
sciath (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
did you watch the video? He had nothing optimistic to say about the future.. he discarded all positive outcome theories and basically said we're on a downward slope with no hope of revival
kendanielone (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
What percentage of Americans do you think would live in rural areas if we converted to permaculture?
Rawmodel (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Wonderful video...it will inspire you to do the same. Check out my project at Rawmodeldotcom...again, great video. Act now while you still can.
maranatha2000 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Gr8 to hear an optimistic view on the issue. All I've been hearing is doom and gloom. Fanx for postin this vid and expanding my perspective:)
WakingMindsDOTorg (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Basically Trying to Converge The Digital Scene with the Sustainability/Green Scene.Anyone into this sort of thing?check it: WakingMinds . Org
newculture (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Nice interview. Good points on sustainability and permaculture. |
