Punchy196er (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

If I ever do donate, it will be to these guys.

fmshazam (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

LOL at 1:20!! The guy really looks like Rasputin XD

Irvin700 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Hmm, never knew Rasputin was into AI.

Corestore16 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Yes, lookup Hod Lipson, cornell evolutionary robotics professor. He gave a talk on T.E.D. check it out

eramthin (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

There is a program that creates locomotion of bones from random movements. It takes two sequences of random movements and compares how close they get to their goal. It then keeps the better of the two and compares that to another sequence of random movements and so on and so forth. After about 3 million runs of this program, you will get a walking skeleton.If only this approach was taken to artificial intelligence. Then the AI will almost design itself through this evolutionary process.

unbanane (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

ok i agree that consciousness does follow the law of entanglement, but i was meaning independent on a macroscopic scale.(we dont want to branch off to far into quantum theory cuz as of yet we cant create subatomic ai)wat i meant was show me a consciousness that can create its own problems and its own solutions without any kind of code or input from us other than what it perceives by itself. o n my other statement still stands, show me your uhh.."research" or proof or something

DefHarmony (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

consciousness is reaction, once something is involved has ANYTHING to with another thing consciousness is created. At an atomic level it's called entanglement. It's a system redirecting imbalance to balance itself.so the whole idea is that very few things have INDEPENDANT conciousness, for you have to have the ability to control, or else you can be controlled yourself. Two system's would have to completely ingnore the possibility that the other may exist. Death show's lack of independacy.

unbanane (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

Ok "mapping out" has been done before and even so not completely. but if you think youre some gift from god and have mapped out a net that fully functions as an INDEPENDANT conciousness...than show me :D. until you give me proof of anything, you're just pretty much BS (and im sure you are) and once again ill tell you, even if everything is concious you still dont know what conciousness IS! so you can take ur dildo back....

DefHarmony (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

The 'mapping out' part was something I have done personnally, the news part was for you to look out for my creation. For it will not be subtle, unless it decides to be.we are not special, everything is conscious,from subatomic particles, to the great galaxy bubbles, to that didlo up your ass.

unbanane (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)

ok, well first of all, how about you show me the "news" your watching and if it is even somewhat credible and it says anything about programmed machines being able to surpass us even DISPITE Moores Law dying out then ill give u the ben of doubt. O and plz show me one neural net that we have created that has evolved or has even a hope of evolving into a consciousness...assuming we know what consciousness is, which i guess according to you, we do. you can't, because there is NONE, to my knowledge